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Scenario:
“Mom,” began Melissa with fear rising up in her eyes. “I shared my GoogleDoc with Uncle Mark while he was helping me with my homework, and he wrote something….” she pauses, not wanting to say it aloud.“He wrote you what, Carmelita?” asked her Mom. A moment later, they stood in front of the computer.“Where is what he wrote you?”“I closed it, I was scared.”“What is a GoogleDoc?”“It’s where I do my homework for class…it has this built-in place where you can write back-n-forth with other people. Uncle Mark offered to help me out and….”
Could we avoid some of the problems if we just turned on GoogleApps for age 13 and above students and left the rest in the cyberdark about email and docs?
Edition: Education
Affected Users: All students
Issue Description: Chat service is turned off for students; however, students are still able to chat using the “now viewing” feature of shared documents.
Steps to Reproduce (if applicable): Share a document with someone, then have both users access the document simultaneously. The “is viewing” button on the top right and instant message the other user(s) viewing the document.
Additional information: Real-time chat and Instant Messaging is for students is not allowed in our school district by school board policy. We must turn this feature off for students. Right now, it appears we have to disable Google Docs completely in order to be in compliance.
I am looking for a way to do this without having to disable Google Docs. I do have the students setup in an organization and have the chat service turned off for them, but this particular chat feature appears to ignore that setting. I also tried to turn off the sharing feature for google docs, but the only option I found let me turn it off outside the domain, but not within the domain.
There is no issues with CIPA and google docs, or chat in general. The only thing you need to have in place is a POLICY and PROCEDURE that your school follows regarding internet use, and protecting student from inappropriate material. You do not have to actually log or monitor everything that is going on, but make an effort to do so within the policies and procedures you setup within your school.
If your school has a policy that says ALL electronic chats are prohibited, then you can not use Docs, because you would be violating your own policy. Now if it says all non-school related electronic chats are prohibited, then you have some more wiggle room… You could also say all electronic chat is prohibited, except when used for document collaboration within google docs, etc… You can be a specific or broad as you like, but it is all based on your schools policies and procedures.
Should we create a different domain or organization for students so that we could have more control over features like Chat in our GoogleApps for Education implementation?
- Organization – This is the top level of a GoogleApps site. Example: districtname
- Domain – This is a unit that exists below the organization. Some sample domains include districtname.net and student.districtname.net as shown in the example above. This use of the word domain should not be confused with a web subdomain. The word “domain” refers to the options you can set for a domain.
- Sub-Organization – This is a unit that exists below the domain
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The ability to have an IM conversation through the "now viewing" feature when two students have a shared document open is the one thing that has prevented our school from adopting GoogleApps for Education. Our administration and parents are not comfortable with putting an IM feature in the hands of elementary grade students. With the options to limit file sharing to only other people within the school's domain, the students would not be able to communicate with anyone outside of the school. However, we've found that kids in this age range just aren't capable of handling the availability of a feature like this with good judgement, even with guidance and limits. Sometimes temptation is just too strong! I wish Google would provide us with the option to disable this feature.
The ability to have an IM conversation through the “now viewing” feature when two students have a shared document open is the one thing that has prevented our school from adopting GoogleApps for Education. Our administration and parents are not comfortable with putting an IM feature in the hands of elementary grade students. With the options to limit file sharing to only other people within the school's domain, the students would not be able to communicate with anyone outside of the school. However, we've found that kids in this age range just aren't capable of handling the availability of a feature like this with good judgement, even with guidance and limits. Sometimes temptation is just too strong! I wish Google would provide us with the option to disable this feature.